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Tuesday, December 31, 2013

How do we afford to sail? (Part 2)- By Brian

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So now that the history of how I got a boat and a mortgage is covered how do we actually afford to sail NOW, after the cruising kitty has long run dry?   Below are just a few options that we’ve run across on our trip.  There is no one answer, no silver bullet.  I’m sure there are many more, it’s just what we do.

The four main things Delos does is:

  1. I still work remotely from the boat on IT projects a few hours a day. (see Work While You Sail)
  2. When not sailing everyone works like crazy to save up money for the next season. (see Take a Sabbatical From Sailing)
  3. Everyone on Delos pays their own way, including friends and family that visit us.  (see Sail With Friends And Family)
  4. Get jobs and make money whenever and where ever we can. (see Work Overseas)

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Best office view in the world.

#1- Work While You Sail

This could either be the best thing ever or the worst thing ever, depending on how you look at it.  If you can find a good balance between working and living the cruising life then it’s an an awesome way to keep some funds in the bank.  Of course you need a skill set and potential employer that lends itself to this type of arrangement.  I’ve done this since Delos was in Bundaberg, Australia and still struggle a bit with separating work and life but for the most part it’s been pretty good. 

Currently I’m working on the development of new versions of a software product our company has released.  Basically I spend a few hours each and every day on the laptop writing code, answering emails, etc.  I try to start at about 8AM and finish by 11 or so.  Sometimes it’s hard to work if we’re on a tough passage where the boats banging around, and sometimes we have an adventure planned that takes up the day but overall It works out pretty good.  I find working in the morning to be a very productive time and I get very few interruptions.  By the time work is finished I have the rest of the day to enjoy so it’s a pretty sweet gig.

There are a few requirements to working on a boat though.  First of all you’ll probably use a laptop which means consuming more power which means a beefier solar\inverter setup.  Delos has 600W of solar which is plenty when the sun is shining, and if not I just run the generator to charge the laptop battery.  It turns out that starting with a fully charged battery gives me just enough time to work. When the battery dies I’m done for the day!

The other requirement is probably going to be internet.  Delos left Seattle with a Wi-Fi antennae and booster and I’ve found it to be nearly useless so far.  Very few places have open Wi-Fi and the places that do aren’t convenient for anchoring.  But, the good news is 3G and mobile access is just about everywhere.  We got good 3G coverage in Mexico, and even a bit of slower Edge coverage in smaller islands across the pacific.  Australia and NZ have excellent 4G coverage.  In fact Telstra claims to have coverage out 100KM to sea.  In reality it started to fade 20KM out for us but maybe with the right directional antennae it’s possible.  We saw good coverage in Fiji, Vanuatu, and some parts of the Solomons.  Indonesia was pretty good and cheap.  So far the best has been right now in the Philippines, where a month of unlimited 3G\4G service sets you back a cool $20.  I wouldn’t depend on it for day trading, but for general access and email it works pretty good.  There have been a few stretches of 2 weeks or so this season where we didn’t have any sort of coverage so this has to be taken into account as a possibility.  Work offline, then take advantage of connectivity when it’s there.

Other than jobs that can be done remotely from the boat for a company back home I’ve seen other people making money by repairing sails, doing electrical work, and even teaching people to dive.  I can only think of a few cases of this so I think it’s actually pretty rare and difficult.  Mostly because cruisers are incredibly cheap.  Imagine the cheapest person you know, then double their level of cheapness.  Most cruisers are still even cheaper than this, and for good reason.  The majority of people are trying to stretch every cruising dollar- just like you.

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Delos goes on the hard in Australia!

#2- Take A Sabbatical From Sailing

This never sounded like a good idea to me before, but after a few years of cruising I totally get it. Believe it or not even the most beautiful tropical atoll can start to lose it’s luster after a while, and taking a break from cruising can be just the ticket.  You come back refreshed and with even more passion than the first time you left, because this time you know just how good it’s going to be.  Hopefully you come back with some coin in your pocket too.

I’ve met a lot of boats that sail the on-season, store the boat, then fly home and work during the off-season.  Our friends Chris and Jess on Namaste leave their boat on the hard in the Tuamotus  for the South Pacific cyclone season and fly back to the US to work.  Our friends Jeff and Amber do the same thing on SV Rockstar, but in Mexico.  Our friends Steve and Prue on Keira do the same thing sailing the Philippines and working in Australia for the cyclone season. 

You don’t have to do it by season either.  Go for a year, or two, or more then take a break.  After cruising the South Pacific for nearly three years we parked Delos in Bundaberg, Australia and took a year long break while living and working in Melbourne which was really sweet. 

While Delos was parked everyone worked at whatever they could find.  Josje worked at an ice cream parlor and burger joint in Australia then a butcher shop in New Zealand.  Brady managed a Mexican restaurant in Melbourne then crewed on super yachts in Ft. Lauderdale.  Karin got a landscape architect internship in Sweden.  I worked from Australia, the US, and finally Sweden over the internet for my company back in the US.  We returned totally psyched to sail again, and had put some cash in the old cruising kitty too.  When the money runs out everyone will go back to work again and the cycle will start over.

There are lot’s of places to safely stash your boat and planes go upwind like you wouldn’t believe, so give it some thought.  15 minutes flying = 1 day sailing on most boats so you can get anywhere pretty quick.

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#3- Sail With Friends and Family

Our first season out we met four Canadian’s on a boat named Mojumbo.  They were all 21 years old and really going for it.  Apparently they made a pact in high school to pool their money in order to sail to the South Pacific.  When their friends were out partying they were working, always stashing cash away.  They held things together and after three years of saving purchased a great cruising boat and still had enough money to get to Australia, where they got work and sold the boat. 

The Delos crew has evolved over the last few years.  My brother Brady joined Delos in Mexico for a few weeks and never ended up leaving.  It’s been almost 4 years now!  We met Karin in New Zealand, and Josje in Fiji back in 2011. We get along amazingly well and I love sailing with them so I feel very lucky.  Sailing with a few people may not be an option for everybody, but for Delos it works out perfectly.  Suddenly even spending $1000 to fill up with Diesel isn’t such a shocker when it’s split up.

This season we’ve had an extraordinary number of friends visit.  A lot of people say “Yea, I’d love to come visit!” but this is the year where everyone actually did.  In fact we’ve had 6 friends come visit this season ranging from a few weeks to a few months, so trying to track and split expenses would have been a nightmare.  I did some calculations based on past seasons and now everyone on board Delos chips in $100.00 per week towards boat expenses.  This covers diesel, dinghy fuel, port fees, boat maintenance, etc.  So, for less than $15 per day you get all the diving and sailing you can swallow.  It’s actually cheaper than most hostels.  We split up food and alcohol costs evenly so to sail everyone stashes away $100 x number of weeks onboard plus enough for their portion of food\alcohol.   In cheap places like Indonesia or Philippines our food cost us $25 per person per week.  In more expensive places like New Zealand or Australia it was $50-$75 per week.  We do eat good and don’t really skimp so it could probably be done even cheaper. 

 

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Josje and Karin doing their thing in Australia!

#4- Work Overseas

When I think of this I see two main categories.  Under 30’s and professionals.  I split them up because if you’re under 30 it’s super easy to get a work Visa in most places.  You apply online and if you’re not blacklisted or an international criminal you should be alright.  In New Zealand and Australia it’s about $200 and good for 12 months.  You can legally work at pretty much anyplace that will hire you and the pay is decent.  I think Josje made around $20 per hour at Huxtaburger.  I’ve heard you can make even more picking fruit and doing manual labor so it’s up to you.  In Australia you can get a 2nd year Visa if you spend 3 months working in “rural” or agriculture work so there’s lot’s of options.  So, if you want to spend a few seasons in the South Pacific and you’re under 30 go to NZ, work for a bit, sail around some more in Fiji and Vanuatu, then go to Australia and do it all over again.

If you’re over 30 then honestly unless you marry a local or are a professional with a high demand skill (engineer, MD, nurse, etc.) it’s going to be pretty tough.  Immigration sites usually have a list of their high demand careers so check it out.  Luckily I didn’t have to go this route as I worked remotely for my company in the US but I know a few cruisers that have.  Our friends Ken and Lori from Trim are currently settled in Melbourne putting some cash away, and our friends Jamie and Behan from Totem did the same thing in Sydney and Brisbane and are now sailing again.

One more idea to throw out here - if you’re handy on a boat (and you probably are as a cruiser) then schedule a stop at a known “super yacht” port.  If  you can catch these guys at the right time it’s easy to get on as a day worker and make some cash.  No Visa required!  Both Brady and I worked in Auckland, NZ as it’s a major stop for yachts in the South Pacific to get out of the cyclone belt before continuing to Fiji and further west.  I found day work as an engineer and was paid $180-200 per day.  Brady worked as a deckhand for about $160 per day.  Since it was all cash in hand it didn’t take too long to save up for that new dinghy motor we needed. 

And finally, some numbers I’ve managed to scrounge together.  Delos is a 53’ foot and pretty systems complex so the costs can vary wildly but here’s ours and some base numbers.  Hopefully this will be somewhat helpful.

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Since leaving Seattle 4.5 years ago we’ve cruised nearly 25,000 NM.  During this time we’ve run the main (78HP Volvo Turbo Diesel) for 1,585 hours and the genset (Onan 7KW) for 1741 hours.  We burned a total of 6154 liters.  The generator burns about 1 liter per hour which puts our main at 3 liters per hour (5.5 – 6 knots for efficiency).  The cheapest fuel we’ve seen is Indonesia at $.65 per liter, and the most expensive was Australia at $1.55 a liter.

Marina Charges

Living aboard in Seattle for Delos was $1,000 a month.  Auckland, New Zealand was about $850 per month.  Hamilton Island, Australia $1,700 per month.  The hard-stand in Bundaberg, Australia was about $600 per month.  The cheapest so far has been Samal Island, Philippines at about $350 per month.  Nearly all marina’s charge by the foot and since we’ve over 50’ it’s much more expensive for us.  We don’t go into the marina much because of this and prefer to anchor out anyway.  Excluding our long stays in NZ and Australia we are at anchor over 90% of the time.

Boat Port Fees

I didn’t really keep track of this so much and am going from memory but should give you the general idea.  Most places in the South Pacific are completely free or just a few dollars.  In 2009 French Polynesia was about $140 including the Puddle Jump rally fee.  This may have changed but it was a very easy way to get around the bond at the time.  Nuie, Auitaki and a few other places in the Cooks were $20 or so but it’s been a few years so it may have changed.  I don’t recall paying anything in Tonga, New Zealand, Fiji, or Vanuatu.  Solomon’s was about $120 for the boat.  Australia charges $300 for quarantine, and Indonesia requires a cruising permit that all-in runs about $300 (excluding bribes to officials there of course).  Philippines was completely free!  Check out Noonsite.com to get a better idea here.

Insurance

Delos is my house and I do pay for insurance.  The most expensive I’ve had is 1.5% of boat value, and the cheapest is just under 1% of boat value for blue-water insurance.

Boat Maintenance

Obviously this will vary wildly from boat to boat.  Delos has a lot of systems (electric furlers\winches, dive compressor, water maker, washing machine, etc. etc.) so lot’s of stuff breaks.  She’s also going on 14 years old now and most of those have been hard cruising years so pumps, motors, seals, etc. are starting to get to their end of life.  On a yearly basis the lowest maintenance expense has been 1% of boat value, while the highest in Australia (bottom paint, new turbo, battery chargers, etc) was about 5%.  To keep costs down we do all the work ourselves on the boat.  Occasionally for specialty items (rebuilding a turbo charger, rewinding a motor) we’ll send out to a shop to get done.  Check out our video “0 to cruising in 20 days” for some of the stuff we did in Australia.

Food Cost

In Australia which is very expensive we had our food cost at about $10 per person per day, or about $300 per month per person.  We like to eat meat (steaks, bacon, chicken) and lot’s of fresh veggies so we could have done it a bit cheaper but were happy with this.  In Indonesia and Philippines where it’s much cheaper we can eat for $3 per person per day.  We still buy some Western style foods (cheese, snacks, etc.) so could make this even cheaper if we really needed to.

Liquor

With a few exceptions like Mexico and the Philippines liquor is pretty expensive.  We were sticker shocked in the Marquesas at $22 for a six pack of local brew.  Tahiti had duty free so that was cool.  Australia is probably the worst where a case of beer was $40 to $60, and a liter of rum was $45.  Because of this we bought a still and started brewing our own moonshine.  Check out our “Moonshiners” blog.  Philippines is the cheapest we’ve seen.  Even at a bar beer is about $1 and rum is $2 a liter.

Summary

Putting it all together our cruising cost for boat stuff (excluding marinas and any major boat breakdowns) is right around $1,000 per month.  With four adults on board our food is $400 (cheap places) or $1,200 expensive places.  So, the total ranges from $1,400 to $2,200 per month depending on where we are.  This includes food, fuel, propane, insurance, small maintenance items, port fees, and yes even alcohol (we love our still).  Delos is a 53’ boat with lot’s of cool systems on board that make our life comfy so I’m sure it could be done cheaper.

When Delos first started cruising our budget was a lavish $3,000 per month with only two people on board.  And guess what?  We managed to spend $3,000 per month.  Now a few years later as we’ve learned more and the savings has dwindled we cruise for half that with twice as many people.

So, the bottom line is you can spend as little or as much money as you have cruising.  I’ve met guys out there with nothing more than hope, dreams, and a Garmin strapped around their necks with a shoelace.  No refrigeration, no luxuries, just pure sailing and sunshine.  I’ve also met people in multi-million dollar yachts cruising in a very different way.  Delos lies somewhere between these two extremes.  If I had to put a label on Delos she would be upper middle class.  But guess what?  Everyone anchors in the same sand, swims in the same water, and enjoys the same sunsets.  The experience you choose is completely up to you.

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70 comments:

  1. Greetings PNW’er’s! Happy New Year (2014) from Seattle, WA!

    Thanks for sharing all this information. I started following your blog from the beginning 2 weeks ago and have totally enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing the journey! For some reason the Remote Monitor utility you utilize thinks I'm from Mercer Island. (Really from Bellevue - (or Blaavue...).

    If it's okay, I have a couple of questions for you. In the beginning you sailed with Mishka onboard. Was that difficult? What did you do for litter and food for her? Do you miss having an animal onboard?

    SV Delos has been working through the South Pacific and Indonesia, I know the plan is pretty open, where generally do you plan to sail from there? Are you considering sailing in Greece, Europe, at any time? Just curious.

    All the best and may the SV Delos encounter warm breezes and smooth seas. I look forward to future posts.
    Mo-

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    1. Hi Morgan,

      Thanks for reading the blog! So it was really nice to have Mishka onboard. She got sick at first but adapted to the life pretty quickly and found cozy spots to curl up in whenever it got rough. We carried a years worth of cat food and litter so that wasn't an issue. Everything was sweet though Mexico and the South Pacific, right up until we got to New Zealand. They have some pretty intense rules and laws about importing pets and are very serious about it. Rightfully so, as their ecosystem is very isolated. We ended up putting Mishka on a flight back to the US at a pretty hefty expense. She's now enjoying a large house soaking up the sun in Tucson, AZ. I do miss having her on board, she was a great boat cat :)

      Our plans truly are written in the sand at low tide but it's nice to always keep a few options in the back of your head. We really loved Indonesia so may go back there at some point then continue to Thailand. We'd probably do the Africa route then bounce off South America to cross the Atlantic.. For some reason exploring Africa seems really interesting but you never know, we're not that far from Japan either at this point......

      Best wishes,
      Brian

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    2. Great blog and great post! Very informative. All this time I thought you guys were dot com millionaires. Unfortunately, I was wrong. If you do decide to cruise to Japan, these sites have good info - http://www.sailblogs.com/member/shadowoflorelei/?c=145 and http://boatingjapan.blogspot.jp. You can make pretty good money teaching English in Japan and its' easy.

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    3. Awesome Baosin, thanks for the links! That would be a sweet way to make a bit of cash so we'll check into it if we sail that way.

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  2. Thanks for the insight. I seriously want to live the life you guys are living one day. If givin the opportunity I will no doubt pursue it. I am familiar with Amel boats. The current model is the Amel 55 and would be the boat of my dreams, but first I would have to find a "first-mate" to sail with. Would you consider single-handing Delos? or is that too much boat? I am also curious where you learned to sail and how long you have been sailing.

    You guys are awesome!!
    Doug Johnson

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    1. Hey Doug! Thanks for taking the time to read our blog and make a comment! So the Amel's are truly awesome boats and with all the furling systems single-handing this boat would be possible. We can get up full sail and set the poles with one person in a matter of minutes, but two does make it easier. Additionally if something were to go wrong on a 50+' boat it would take a lot of effort to get things under control so I like to keep that in mind. Most of the single handers I've met have have boats in the 35-44 foot range but ultimately it's what feels right to you!

      I had done some sailing before on my own boat (22' &36' Catalina) before buying Delos but I REALLY learned to sail by joining a race crew and working my way from rail meat to foredeck. It was so amazing to learn from these guys and work as a team in some pretty intense situations. I really learned a ton by racing for a few seasons, which lead to doing a delivery back from Hawaii to Seattle where I got a bit of blue-water experience.

      Cheers, and best of luck with following your dreams!

      Brian

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  3. Thanks for answering the two major question I posted sometime back. The additional information is truly a bonus. This has been my dream for the last five years to do what you are doing unfortunately I got caught up with the financial crunch which has setback the timetable. The dream will happen. This is a small world sometimes, so we may just see you out there on that blue water.
    Safe travels for you and your fellow travellers in 2014, keep the blogs and video's coming. thx Jim.

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    1. Hey Jim,

      Cool man, this topic has been on my mind for a while so glad I could get it out there! You're absolutely right it's a small world, so we'll see you out there. Thanks for following the blog and videos :)

      Cheers,
      Brian

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  4. You did a great thing here Brian! This is the honest type of post most people are looking for that gives hope to those wanting more in their life before they are retirement age. I think the world is coming to the realization that retirement is a big lie for the average person and working 45 years to live for 5 to 10 years before you die is not a life.

    I look back on all the money I wasted on fast cars, parties and expensive places to live, and I want to kick myself for all the wasted money and most importantly, all the wasted years of youth that could have been used better.

    You guys are doing it right! In the words of Jimmy Buffet, "Id rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead"

    Are you coming back West sometime?

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    1. Ken! Oh wise words my friend. I think about that all the time :)

      We're really loving SE Asia. Just so different than anything we've seen before. I think we will stick in the Philippines for the season then figure it out from there. You know how that goes......

      Hope Melbourne is treating you well.

      Brian

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  5. Happy New Year to all of you on Delos! What a terrific blog this was. All of the questions that have been rumbling around in my head since you first started this odyssey (but were too embarrassed to ask) have been answered. I admire all of you for living your dreams. Oh how different my life would have been had we been cousins instead of nephews and aunt! Uncle Bruce and I wish you safe travels, good health and much happiness. Love, Aunt Honey

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  6. Most useful cruising blog post from all of 2013, and you saved it for New Year's Eve! Like so many others in the cruising community, the crew of sv Delos is doing it right and sharing candidly with your audience. Thank you! For us, the biggest obstacle to full-time cruising is debt. We're busting it to get it gone ASAP, but not having it in the first place would've been much easier were we thinking about our cruising dreams several years ago.

    P.S. Keep the videos coming!

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  7. First off I want to say "Thank You" for sharing this information. Its simply awesome...

    My wife and I recently made the decision to "get out there" in 2 - 3 years. Ours will be a very different experience from yours as we will be bringing out 3 little ones along. Even so, this information is still really helpful and verifys my rough ballpark numbers...

    We also have zero sailing experience... Ya seriously... Any advise that could help me out in this area (books, ect).

    Anyway... I will be following along..

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    1. Too cool! love to hear that you're on your way! So we know lot's of people out there with kids and they love every second of it. Great way to spend time with your family and enjoy life :) If you haven't already check out our friends on Totem http://sv-totem.blogspot.com/ . They have 3 little ones as well and have been out for 5 years now.

      As far as sailing experience the thing that really helped me was racing and sailing with others on deliveries. If there is a racing club in your area just try to get on a boat. You will learn soooo much. The type\size of boat doesn't matter, smaller may even be better. Also volunteer yourself for deliveries. I ended up doing a delivery from Hawaii to Seattle by making friends with a yacht broker. They often can use help moving boats they are trying to sell, and if you pay your own way and volunteer your time it could be well worth it.

      Just a few thoughts!

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    2. Brian.. I appreciate the response..

      I should have been a little more descriptive.. We live where sailing is almost non-existent.. No ocean, or even big(ish) lakes anywhere close. Even then, everything is frozen for about 5 months of the year. We do have some smaller lakes that have quasi sailing clubs but the season is so short that we have a really tough time connecting with them.

      As time gets closer, I plan to post in the forum and offer myself as crew. That gets fairly spendy though as flights anywhere from here are kinda costly.

      In the mean time I will probably buy myself a little sailing dinghy in the spring to get a little experience at least. I have a close friend that went cruising about 10 years ago and taught himself on a hobby cat before buying a 35 footer.

      The crazy thing... Financially, we could get out there today. Its the steep learning curve and planning that has set our date 2 - 3 years away. Its amazing how mired down life can get you..

      Thank you very much for the link to Totem.. They have a great blog and the ages of their children closely match ours.. I really appreciate that.

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  8. Brian... Thank you for your numbers... My wife and I are heading out in 177 days but whose counting.. I hope we catch up with you one day soon...
    Cheers, Kyle and Shelley B. S/V Blowin' Bubbles
    www.benger.blogspot.com

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    1. OH yea! I remember the under 180 day milestone. Awesome :) Fair winds and hope to see you out here!

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  9. Brian,
    I stumbled on your blog a few hours ago and was captivated by your videos and stories of your adventure. Thanks for the money tips, great information. Thank you !!

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    1. Hi Matt,

      Thanks so much for the awesome comment :) We have a lot of fun doing it!

      Cheers,
      Brian

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  10. Great blog and videos! Like everyone else, I thought it was great to read a break-down of how the work and expenses are handled when cruising. I haven't look through the rest of your postings, yet, but you can bet I am bookmarking this page for later! Looking at your videos, I guess I should have taken that class on basic electrical theory in college. I think it'd be helpful!!

    Best wishes,
    Joel

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    1. Hey Joel thanks for the awesome comment :) Having some basic knowledge certainly helps but out of necessity you can learn just about anything. There is a sweet book called "Boat Owners Mechanical and Electrical Manual" by Nigel Calder that is pretty thorough and could be helpful.

      If you have any other questions just let us know!

      Cheers,
      Brian

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  11. We own a 40' hunter. We really wanted to upgrade to a Catamaran... but, they are so damned expensive (in many ways - not just purchase price) ... in your money values... catamarans are 'upper class' and we are not no matter how we slice up the money.

    We just gave up on the catamaran and have started shopping for a mono in 45' to 50' range that can handle a bit more luxury items and tech with a bit more storage for items associated with 'fun'. Right now we are debt free and we sail with what we have... and few people can tell we are sailing the Yugo of the sv world when we take them out for a few days or just a few hours. Seems the elites of the sv world want to make fun of us.

    As you said so well... same beach, same water, same views... different dock.

    You captured exactly what cruising is exactly... for the most part it is not about the boat as much as it is about experiencing your dreams.

    Do you have a preference on a brand NOT to buy? Steel vs Fiberglass?

    Your expenditure records were super helpful we have yet to make the really long voyage... yet! That umbilical cord never really gets completely cut... "What if they need something?" And wanting to be there for them is easier for some than for others.

    Your remarks on the internet were very helpful also, I have wondered about using the internet in different countries and ports ... to include info security.

    What kind of personal security measures do you take while in Indonesia and iffy anchorages? What is your signal to the others to alert for trouble. Do you have a team plan? Can you elaborate? I have read books where people only give copies of documents, artificial ID's etc... Perhaps you could share your methods of dealing with the shadier people in ports.

    What is in your tool box(s)?

    Did you train your shipmates how to sail? Are you a certified captain? Does any of the other crew have certifications?

    What is your hierarchy rank structure on the boat when such moments arise? Have you ever had to play dictator?

    Great videos, great adventures, great commentary, great honesty, and inspirational story.

    Cheers, Peace, and Great Journey,

    Z

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    1. Hey Zahariel!

      When we left California our buddy boat was our friends Petter and Octavia on their Hunter 44 they sailed along with us for three months. Along the way we also met another couple on a Hunter 28 that were having a blast. You couldn't be more right, it's the people that make the boat and not the other way around. This holds true for any make or model! I just the other day met two guys on a 21 foot boat without even a toilet! They had been out a year and were planning to finish their circumnavigation by this years end. Wild! They thought we were really posh and we thought they were really hardcore. Then we all drank some rum together and realized we were all just sailors.

      I really don't have experience with anything besides fiberglass. I've met lot's of people in steel boats, mostly guys that have been sailing for 15-20 years so that speaks something to the longevity. They mumble something about corrosion every now and then but seem to have a system for keeping things in check. But, I've also met lot's of fiberglass boats from the 80's and before so if you find the right boat just make sure she's surveyed good!

      When we're in sketchy anchorage (which has only happened twice to us) we do night watches. We sit outside with a massive spotlight and an air horn. If someone comes close we hit them with the light. We keep it on them until they leave, which they always do. Most of the time it's just fisherman. If this doesn't scare them off (which has never happened) our plan is to blow the airhorn to wake everyone on the boat up. We have items placed around Delos (boat hook, gaffs, machetes, flare gun, etc.) within arms reach. We don't carry guns but our hope is that being aware and showing a display of crazy people armed with various objects would scare most would-be thiefs away. Of course if they have guns then they're the real deal. What can you do?

      I myself do not have any certifications as a captain. All my experience came from racing, crewing on other people's boats, and then sailing, sailing, and more sailing. We all did take a Basic Training at a maritime academy in the Philippines. It really was awesome! If you're interested look into the course with a code of STCW-95 at the nearest maritime school.

      When new crew joins Delos we give them a safety orientation on fire fighting equipment, water tight bulk heads, ditching procedures, man overboard, etc. I'm lucky that most everyone has sailed on Delos for a few years so the new people have plenty of places to get their questions answered.

      I've never had to force my hand on Delos. Probably because we're all of the same mind-set and are out here for fun we don't have to put ourselves in harms way, so we make decisions AHEAD of time to keep us out of an dangerous circumstances. That being said on a boat you HAVE to have a captain who makes a decision that is not questioned but executed, whether right or wrong. There has only been one time when Delos was truley in danger and we did what was necessary to save ourselves. We later discussed why it happened and decided to not put ourselves in that circumstance again.

      Cheers, and thanks for the amazing comments!

      Brian

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    2. Hi Brian,

      First of all, thanks for sharing your experiences in all your blogs, videos, comments, etc. Really cool to see you guys have so much fun.

      Would you mind elaborating on the "one time when Delos was truely in danger"? Is there a cautionary tale in there for the rest of us?

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    3. Hey Daniel! I was refering to a time in the Solomon Islands. We were diving a WWII wreck of a Japanese cargo ship and Delos was anchored in over 50M of water to give us access to the dive site. The day was beautiful, sunny, with about 5 knots of breeze and flat seas. Brady and Josje were down diving the wreck when a sudden squall came over the Island. It Went from 5 to 40 knots in a matter of moments and we were caught off guard. Our gear was scattered around and we were not ready for any weather. By the time I had the Engine started Delos had already been driven onto the reef and was lying beam to the building seas while she smashed against the reef. I thought we were going to lose the boat. Luckily my friend Paul put on snorkle gear and went into the water. With his directions and by using the bow thruster and sails with the main engine at rull RPM and turbo engaged we smashed our way off the reef.

      I then motored offshore directly into the waves, leaving Paul behind to swim to the beach. Brady and Josje surfaced from their dive to see Delos bashing her way through 2M seas. Scary, but after the squall passed I was able to go back and pick them up, still floating just off the beach.

      Our mistake was being anchored so close to reefs, in very deep water with only enough scope to hold the boat for calm conditions. And also having our gear in such a way that I had to spend time running around after the gear rather than focusing immediately on Delos, and whether or not she was dragging.

      Now I would anchor further out and take the dinghy to access the dive, or put out another rode to increase our scope for the depth and bottom type. And we now always keep all the gear secured properly, even in really calm conditions. At least we were onboard and able to motor off the reef with minimal damage!

      Fair Winds,
      Brian S/V Delos

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    4. Bravo Brian!
      You knew what to do in the middle of the danger. That is a true sign of not only a good sailer, but a good leader/captain. When I went sailing this past weekend [SouthCoast 22'], due to not having a reverse on my outboard, under partial mainsail, we came in too hot to the dock, ended up getting the swinging keel stuck in water, with 10-12 knot winds abeam, we were 10 feet from shore. I finally got the fuel tank hooked up to the irregularly running 4hp outboard and got us off and away as I had my new crew crank up the keel. It was the first time I've been called 'brilliant' in my sailing skills. Mostly, it was due to my not having to send my crew to the beach ... cold water swim here in Nebraska now. But, sailing always brings up opportunity to live on the edge of excitement occasionally while usually living in the boredom of repetition. Now, you have a revised plan of operation, which has been born out of the 'thrill' of necessity. Wisdom has been gained and now is applied. I am glad you had alternatives, have alternatives, always seeking additional alternatives. Just like good code. You want it done correctly the first time, but must always seek alternatives, when what was obvious, did not perform as expected. Huge learnings. On-the-fly life preservation moves. Bravo to you Brian and your crew.

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    5. +NeuroConnecting, great story! Reminds me of a time when I grounded my Catalina 22 on Lake Washington. I was trying to show off my tacking skills and ended up hitting a shallow bank right in front of these people having a dinner party in their mansion house. They had a great show from their very fancy dining room of us cranking up the keel and Sailing out of the mud. The looks on their faces were priceless!

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  12. Good read as I'm preparing my 32' Pearson to cruise in the Bahamas for a couple of months (at least)!

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  13. Brian all I can say you are an inspiration to me right now. And thank you so much for sharing all your experiences with everyone.

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  15. Just read these Post again since I found your Adventure on Youtube,It always gets more enjoyable and gets my own Dreams going.I just bought the Book(Sailing For Dummies).Let the Dream Begin.

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    1. Hey Patrick! That's awesome, glad to hear you enjoyed the videos and blog!

      Another book worth checking out is "The Complete Sailor" by David Seidman. We have a copy on Delos and when friends\family visit that haven't sailed much I slyly put in on their bunk :)

      Cheers to you and best wishes with your dreams!
      Brian
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  17. Brian, thanks a lot for the great write-up! I watched all through current episodes and vicariously live though you guys, envying every moment. Your filming and story-telling is getting better as the episodes roll on - a marked improvement. Cruising has been on my mind for more than a decade, but life kept getting in the way. "Next Year" was a thing that went on for some time. I almost pulled the trigger on 3 separate cruising boats, once event giving up a small earnest money deposit. I was really set on what I wanted - steel chined hull, masthead sloop rig, center cockpit with aft cabin, etc, etc. I got a lot of my ideas from a 'crazy' dude named Bernie who circumnavigated solo some years ago - riverearth.com. This was until this year when my wife had our first baby and I came to the realization that cruising was not happening for some years now. Giving up the idea of the steel battleship, I had the justification to get a racing boat, which made the search quick and easy - the 35 footer is now racing twice a week in the local PHRF circuits.

    What caught my eye about your adventures at first was that you guys (like us) are from Seattle. And somehow I felt that you were a computer guy. I've operated an IT firm for 15 years now and yea, 2008 sucked for us also. Knocking on wood, it looks like we've weathered that storm and the backlog of deferred maintenance that is out there now is making for some impressive P&L's; I can't hire, train and retain new staff fast enough!

    It is just so hard to leave... We are both first generation immigrants to the US, both came as kids, but our parents came here with practically nothing. We dont have trust funds, or connections, or anything else that so many take for granted. Not even having parents who know how things work in the US, is hard to describe. Starting from zero sucked and giving it up to go sailing is scary. Whereas 12 years ago, cruising was a dream grossly lacking of funds, now the restricting factor is time commitments. I slaved away to build the business and frankly leaving it for shorter periods of time has not always turned out well. I made the decision to "be my own boss" early in life so that I could have freedom. But what I found is that I am more anchored to the business than I would ever be to any job! I have about 130 bosses and about 10 underlings who at times never seize to amaze me in just how many different ways the ball can be dropped... Maybe I should save this for a therapist and get to my question:

    Your plan does sound doable. One way or another (at a great amortized financial loss) I could shed the lead ball that I tied to my own leg. I could buy a proper cruising craft and come join in your fun. However, what will happen in 10 years? Ok, let's say 20? I will be 50-something. Maybe cruising will still be fun, or maybe it will get old as everything out there. I would not imagine that a boat would be a good place to have arthritis. With savings wiped out and little to show for wealth other than an ancient hard-ridden boat... What then?

    One of the steel battleships that I almost bought was owned by a guy who claimed to be 72. He cruised the Pacific in her for many years from Alaska to Kiwi, Japan, etc. We was praying to get $50K for her because he found a house on some desert land near a reservation in Arizona that he wanted to buy and retire in. He had some military pension and that was his plan. I didn't buy the boat then (2006) because I could not fine A SINGLE marina with an open slip at the time. Elliott Bay told me that they would not even take my name to put on a list because the waiting list was over 4 years and the clerk jokingly told me that I needed to wait for some people to die...

    I guess in a nut shell - what I am curious about hearing is your retirement plan as it relates to the cruising lifestyle.

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  18. Hi Brian,

    Great stuff to read. Very interesting to see a breakdown of what cruising actually costs based on real life experience in stead of guestimates.

    Since you make absolutely great video content (almost an addiction for most viewers given the comments, including myself) with relative high numbers of viewers, I was wondering if you already monetize your content via Youtube ads. If you're trying to make every dollar you can for extra sailing/beer time, why not get paid for the time and effort you put in the video productions.

    Other than than it is good to see a Catalina 22 can turn into an Amel 53. I've got an (vd Stadt) Oceaan 22 named 'Speedy Chiquita' (the hull is yellow:). Maybe a mix of TLC, state of mind and money is the right 'boat-fertilizer' to also let her grow into a 50+ ft yacht:)

    Keep the videos coming!
    Fair winds and greetings from Amsterdam!

    Cheers,
    Vincent Drubbel

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    1. Hey Vincent- So glad you enjoyed the blog post, and glad that some of the numbers helped. Another source you may find cool is "The Voyagers Handbook" by Beth Leonard. Lot's of great info in there. That one helped my quite a bit when I was planning this trip.

      We just started monetizing the YouTube videos. For a while we were blocked by getting license free music but have found a few sources now so it's working out pretty well. It's really humbling to see the views and comments from people, that in itself makes the effort worth it. And if we can get some beer money out of it that's just a bonus!

      Sweet, cool name of your boat! You're absolutely right about planting the seed then fertilizing. That's kind of what it was like for me. PS- If you're into that sort of thing maybe check out "You'll see it when you believe it." by Wayne Dyer.

      Hope you don't mind the book recommendations but I'm found them to be very helpful.

      Fair Winds, and if we ever drop by Amsterdam perhaps we can share a beer!

      Brian
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    2. Hi Brian,

      Good to hear you started monetizing the videos and indeed the numbers are fantastic. I work for an online video production company as concepting & strategy specialist. I know a lot of big corporates who would kill for your viewers and specially the engagement you create. The difference with corporate video communication is probably the authenticity. You produce them because you want to share your passion, in stead of commercial targets/product push.

      A director once told me every good film must contain 3 elements: guns, boobs and helicopters. Of course this is a bit of a metaphor, but in a way your video's can match this:) They have the right mix of adventure, stories, practical sailing info, humor and viewers can really relate to the crew. And good production value filming diving, sailing, exploring, etc. (nice Phantom drone by the way!). It really pays off.

      Thanks very much for the book recommendations! I just ordered them both online. Since I'm going on vacation next week I was in need of new books anyway so why not read 'The voyagers Handbook' while looking out over sea. 'You'll see it when you believe it' isn't a book I normally would buy, but there is a first time for everything:)

      Anything goes in Amsterdam and I know a place or two to get a beer;) So if you ever get the chance to drop by I'm happy to show you around. To keep it nautical... The most beautiful way to get a view of the city is by boat over the canals!

      Cheers!
      Vincent

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  19. Great Blog....It sure helps alot. And will continue to read also. thanks for the great videos also. be safe and fair winds

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  21. Hi Brian,

    I'm enjoying the blog and going thru it for the second time. You guys are such an inspiration.

    Just a quick comment on the booze prices in Aus, since I'm in Canada, $40-60 for a case of beer is normal and $45 for a litre of rum is just a little higher. At least I won't be sticker shocked by that!

    Fair winds and following seas.

    Bastien

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    1. Hey Bastien- Thanks so much for reading the blog! So get ready for this.... In the Philippines rum as about $1.50 a liter and a case of beer about $10-12. Prices in USD.... So we had reverse sticker shock when we got there! Great Place :)

      Fair Winds and following seas to you as well!

      Brian
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  22. Great post! This is very useful info and much appreciated. I enjoy your blog and videos, you guys are truly inspiring! I've been dreaming of sailing for 20 years and finally signed up for a 5 day live aboard sailing lesson deal with a local school in Oct. I was blown away to find that there REALLY are people out there doing what you guys are doing! I appreciate all the info you're putting out there and will continue to follow. Just wanted to say thanks. Hope to be out there myself one day!

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    1. Oh how awesome, this is exactly what we love to hear :) Congratulations on this awesome step, I'm sure you will LOVE it! Thank you so much for the inspiring comments, it means a lot to us....

      Fair Winds,
      Brian
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  23. While I have many many questions, I am going to keep it to one on this occasion. If this question has already been asked, I'd be glad to be told to "read above please." :) Do you have a geiger counter on board and are sensitive to the ongoing issues related to radiation poisoning from the Fukushima disaster? The ocean can only absorb so much radiation, then things will begin to deform and eventually die. I'd prefer you stay healthy. Truly.
    Paul

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    1. Hey! Yea, that's a pretty interesting question to consider. The first I heard of it was a few months back on another cruiser blog so I did a bit of reading. There are lot's of sources of info out there, with every viewpoint imaginable. To tell you the truth it's not something we lose any sleep over, and no we don't have any radiation measuring devices on Delos. We believe that the healthy lifestyle of cruising outweighs a lot of the potential negative things possible out here. I remember when I used to commute to work in Seattle and sit by the side of the road waiting for a bus, with diesel and car exhaust everywhere, then to sit in traffic for an hour with all those engines running spewing into the air. Breathing all that junk it. Then to sit in front of a computer 10 hours a day like a zombie! So, I guess there's a tradeoff either way but I still feel much healthier out here! Sorry to go off on a tangent, but I hope that answers your question!

      Brian
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    2. Brian: It will be easy for you to notice the non-shark related deformities on the fish you catch. The statistically noticeable normal color interior flesh will have white spots throughout the interior. Throw it back to the sharks. :)
      Be well.
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    3. If you would like to read some more info re: radiation, here is a link to a site that is rather thorough and very concerned about some radiation spikes.
      http://www.allnewspipeline.com/Something_Very_Strange_Is_Going_On.php
      Paul

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    4. Wow, thanks for all the info. Makes for some interesting reading. If we spot any "fishy" fish we will defenitely return it to the deep. Fair Winds- Brian S/V Delos

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    5. Your courteous reply is gratefully received.
      Be well.
      Paul

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  24. I follow them for several months now and have enjoyed each of their journeys through their videos, FB and blogs. I really admire your way of life ... Greetings from Argentine

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    1. Hey Alejandro! Awesome man, thanks so much for watching our videos :) Best type of complement we can get! And so awesome that you're in Argentine. Fair Winds, and wishing you all the best. Brian S/V Delos

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  25. G'day guys, how'd the name Delos come about. We like it and love the vids etc so cheers for that!
    Paul and Sharon on Aquan

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    1. Hey! Thanks so much for watching the vids and leaving a comment :) So Delos already had her name when I bought her. I thought it was a perfect boat name. Short, easy to say on the radio, and had a cool history so decided to keep it. The origin is actually the Greek island of Delos. We have a short version of the greek mythology story on our Come Board page If you want to take a look. http://svdelos.blogspot.se/p/blog-page_7933.html

      Fair Winds!
      Brian
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  26. I'm really enjoying your videos - I'm on #10.
    For those of us who have fantasies of someday chartering a boat, I would love it if you could intersperse your regular videos with practical sailing videos e.g. navigation, finding a safe anchorage, strategies for weathering a storm at sea, overhauling the diesel engine, planning an ocean passage, setting autopilot by wind or compass etc.
    Cheers,
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    1. Hey John! Thanks so much, love to hear this type of feedback. We have an ongoing list of "Cool stuff to video" while we're out there so I'll add your thought to the list :)'

      Fair Winds, and wishing you all the best!
      Brian
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  29. Hi there Brian, we're planning on cruising the northern winter in down south and working back in the UK from April to September each year (returning with boat to live at our mooring on the south coast). This piece on finance is really interesting and helpful. My query is about insurance as my boat is also my home, I always thought most cruisers sail without insurance due to its huge cost (comprehensive) (not sure about blue water third party yet though-haven't inverstigated). Could you be a little more specific about the cost of your boat insurance please? Any tips where to look or go, and do you think its doable for those sailing on a low budget (a couple spending $1000 a month)? Cheers man, Neox

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    1. Hey, that sounds like an awesome plan! For us the 1% to 1.5% of insured boat value has been pretty accurate, of course depending on where you're sailing and your intended route. For example crossing the Indian Ocean will be more expensive for insurance than when we were in NZ and Australia. More remote, more expensive repairs, etc. What I did was just contact 5 or 6 different brokers using different underwriters until I got a good quality company at a reasonable price. You're right- there are quite a few cruisers without so it's kind of a personal decision for you. Fair Winds, and I hope we can cross paths someday! Brian SV Delos

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  30. So the insurance is about 300-500/mo?

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    1. Yep, right in that range depending on what the company thinks about the route, open ocean distances, etc. for the season. Fair Winds! Brian SV Delos

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  31. Great information. Thanks for sharing!!

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  32. I have read and watched all of your videos and blog comments and you do a great job! I hope to start my adventure cruising some day and living through your videos has kept my dreams alive! It is snowing and 30 below zero here today in Wisconsin!
    Dave

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    1. Right on David, happy to hear that! Until then stay warm :) It's 30 something here, but on the other side of the scale, and in Celsius :) Fair Winds- Brian SV Delos

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  34. Your videos bring me such joy and I cant wait to see the next one. I have a question about money. Do you carry all the money you will need for the entire trip with you? That would be like 10,000 to 15,000 depending on how many people on board. Oh and one more thing how can I get a Delos.com T-shirt. Thanks again.

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    1. Hey there!

      Really happy to hear you enjoy the videos! Thanks for watching! We never carry that much on Delos. Even the most remote islands have an ATM you can use. We are currently offering the shirts as a reward for our supporters on Patreon. Check out www.patreon.com/svdelos for more info!

      Cheers,
      Brady

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